Malaysia is a big tourist destination, yes. "Malaysia, Truly Asia" has been constantly advertised on CNN International for years, Penang and Langkawi are resort hotspots and Kuching and Kota Kinabalu are big culture/adventure travel destinations. But, compared to its neighbors, Indonesia with Borobudur and Bali, Cambodia with Angkor Wat, the international hub city of Singapore and of course Thailand, Malaysia pales as a tourist destination. This sort of seems like a fact of life, but why? What about Malaysia makes it relatively unappealing, so lame-seeming? It can certainly be good value, with many services at first world levels for discount prices. The food is excellent. Melaka and Penang have intriguing history and there is natural beauty galore on Borneo. Is Malaysia's poor reputation unmerited? Admittedly we've spent little time in Malaysia, just a couple weeks in Borneo and about a week in Peninsular Malaysia, but our answer would be no. Malaysia just isn't in the same league.
The first problem with Malaysia is, apparently, violence. I do not know the statistics on this, but Malaysia is the only country in Asia (other than the Philippines) where I have heard repeated safety concerns from other travelers. Yes, you may be conned in Bangkok and there are certainly some government-related issues in Burma and China, but East/Southeast Asia as a whole (other than the Philippines) is extraordinarily safe, one of the region's many strengths for travelers. Even Jakarta, which I had at one point ignorantly feared, feels astonishingly safe on the ground. In sharp contrast, in the short time that we were in Kuala Lumpur (KL), we heard two separate stories about muggings, and I was physically attacked in the main bus station (more on this below).
The second problem with Malaysia is racism and racial tension. While Malaysia has a history dating from the 15th century or so as a Malay-ethnic sultantate, Malaysia as a modern country is largely the product of colonial powers (first Portuguese and Dutch and then British) and labor brought in by those powers (the Chinese for manual labor and commerce, the Indians for administration and the service sector). Well into the twentieth century, the principal cities of Malaysia were largely built, owned and populated by Chinese, who made up nearly half of the country's population. The smaller Indian population is augmented by the presence of overseas workers from the subcontinent. Yes, Malaysia is a multicultural society, but Malaysia's vision of itself as a country where all three of the major ethnic groups live together in complete harmony sometimes seems to be more dream than reality.
The biggest problem, in my view, is discriminatory Malaysian laws. I do not deny that it is unfortunate for your "homeland" to be taken over by an outside ethnic group that has been brought in by a colonial power (the Palestinians certainly can identify with that)--the Chinese minority is still disproportionately economically powerful--but the policies put in by the majority Malay (now some 60% of the population) amount to little other than discrimination against and theft from the Chinese and Indians. Public companies are required to be at least 30% owned by Bumiputras (i.e., "sons of the earth," or Malays and certain other "native" groups), new housing construction is required to be sold to Bumiputras at a discount, Bumiputras are allowed affirmative access in higher education and many government contracts and permits are given to Bumiputras on a preferential basis. This racist system is enshrined in the Malaysian constitution, and although the provision was supposed to be temporary, and there is occasionally talk of trimming back on its application, it remains in place.
The laws are no doubt both an effect of and a cause of racial sentiment that seems prevalent throughout the country. Malaysia is certainly not the only country with racial tension (Indonesia in particular is infamous for racial riots that have occurred in its history), but, currently, Malaysia is, outside of the U.S., the country in which I've felt the greatest amount of animosity among different ethnic groups. Our conflict at the bus station was with Malay-ethnic Malaysians, and Chinese-ethnic Malaysians who were present immediately came to our defense, telling us that as Americans in a position of relative influence we had to report what had happened to us. One middle-aged Chinese woman said that "they" (meaning Malays) commit all kinds of crimes, especially against defenseless South Asians, and get away with it. She was also mistrustful of the police, and told me that I should make sure to keep copies of all reports that we make, to ensure that they are not subsequently doctored. An Indian police officer who handled our matter said that such violence was a "national epidemic," with the subtle implication that it was a Malay-ethnic problem. A Chinese taxi driver told us not to take Indian taxis, because they would rip us off (perhaps in this case a justified prejudice, judging from our limited sample). Surveys have shown that racial stereotypes are widely held in Malaysia, with people believing Malays to be lazy, Chinese greedy and Indians dishonest.
Third, Islam is manifesting itself in Malaysia in strange ways. People may think of Malaysia as the more modern and cosmopolitan of the two Muslim Southeast Asian nations, but, it seems to me, Malaysia, far more than Indonesia, is turning to a sort of fundamentalist version of Islam that is bizarrely conservative and reactionary. (I have read that the rise of fundamentalist Islam in Indonesia was at one time called "the Malaysian problem" because Malaysia was the Asian source of the movement.) All Malays are subject to sharia (or Islamic law) courts, which have ruled apostasy a crime. Malaysia is famous for having pursued, essentially as a political crime, a sodomy charge against a former prime minister. Our bus station altercation involved an argument with a woman, whom I had to shake off of me at one point because she was forcefully grabbing my arm and not letting go--a person standing by told me that I should have my hand cut off for fighting with a woman ("chop chop chop," she cheerfully said, making a chopping gesture with her hand), a demented vision of Islamic punishment. Ideas which are out of date seem even more backward when placed in a foreign cultural setting--it may make sense for some Arab countries to wish to revert back to a more glorious Arab past, but in Malaysia the adoption of the foreign code of behavior feels not only anachronistic (shifted in time) but misplaced (shifted in space and culture).
Finally, however Malaysia may try to sell itself as a developed country, the primitive state of some of its public transport culture shows that it is in some ways still very much a third world country. First, the taxis. I remember, not too long ago, when taxis in Korea used to rip customers off--overcharging foreigners, refusing to use the meter, refusing to go to certain parts of town, etc. At some point, some combination of the government, drivers and customers recognized that developed countries do not behave this way, and taxis are now, for the most part, totally clean. Vietnam is clearly still on the developing end of the scale, according to this metric, while Thailand with its combination of meters and crooked drivers falls somewhere in between. The taxis in KL are some of the absolute worst for ripping travelers off--perhaps the only place we've seen worse is Delhi, and that's saying an awful lot. Drivers in central KL routinely refuse to use their meters and instead quote astronomical rates that are multiples of the proper fare. Rather than turn their meter on or accept a reasonable fare, they will simply tell you to get out of their car. The government apparently lacks the will or the means to clean this up, despite the extremely poor impression it makes on travelers to Malaysia, while the lack of dignity on the part of the drivers reveals that a grave deficiency in the levels of civics and ethics.
But even worse than the taxis (after all, a common problem, even if not to the level of KL) is the situation at Puduraya Bus Station. Puduraya is the country's largest bus station and is located right in the heart of KL. If you've been in Korea or Turkey or Mexico or any other country with well-developed bussing, you know that bus lines can be extremely comfortable and professional. I recall that the main bus terminal in Mexico City is pretty much like an airport in terms of modernity and efficiency, Turkish busses famously have attendants that give you cologne and Korean busses leave precisely on time, almost to a fault, with many offering 2-1 seating (two seats on one side of the aisle, one on the other). Even Indian bus stations, for all their chaos, are pretty well run, with reliable schedules and fares by state-owned companies.
Puduraya is, simply put, the worst bus station we've ever seen. The place is in congested central KL (has no-one thought to move this thing a bit out of town?) and, in steamy Malaysia, not air conditioned. All of the guidebooks refer to it as a den of pickpockets. There are some fifty or so ticket counters--competition run amok with no sense of regulation--and no centralized way to figure out when what busses are going where. Worst of all are the many scams. We fell prey on the one ride we tried to take out of Puduraya and met another tourist who was also an angry victim. Reports online suggest that the scams are extremely common, not only but especially for tourists. It goes something like this: You buy a ticket, and at some point someone pretends to be a ticket agent and tears off your stub. Given the chaos of the station, with literally dozens of companies, almost no-one in uniform and multiple companies operating in each bay, this does not happen only to the naive. Then, when it comes time for you to get on your bus, you are told that your ticket is invalid and your assigned seat has been sold to another passenger.
What happened to us was a slight variation on this. We showed up for our bus exactly seven minutes early, but didn't find a bus. Bus station employees who were standing at our bay told us to wait, and then tore off our ticket stub. After waiting for twenty minutes, we realized that our bus must have left without us (as we learned later, after filling our seats with other passengers who were charged an on-the-spot premium for getting on an earlier bus), and so went angrily to ask for a refund. At the counter, we were told that our tickets could not be refunded because the stubs had been torn off, despite the fact that we were not the only passengers who had been waiting, promptly and in the right place, and never even saw the bus. Basically, this ploy allows the companies to sell more tickets than there are seats on the bus. In our case, with a typically Malaysian twist it turns out, this dispute led to the crook running up behind me and hitting my head with a heavy walkie-talkie.
When Derek defended me with a quick punch to my attacker, an angry crowd of Malays converged, all siding with the attacker (later we learned that they were likely other resident con-artists who were part of the same gang). But many others knew exactly what was going on. A taxi driver (figuring it best to get out quickly, we opted for an expensive long-distance taxi instead of trying another bus) told us that there's a "mafia" of ticket sellers and con artists operating at the station, selling tickets to buses that don't exist and otherwise getting people to pay for tickets that they cannot use. It is equally well known among well-seasoned travelers. To quote Lonely Planet's Thorntree message board:
"Having been traveling for over 16 months through Northern Asia, Latin America, Australasia and now South East Asia we have seen a lot of bus stations (at the moment we have used over 115 intercity buses on this trip) but we agreed that Puduraya was the worst we had seen so far in terms of ease of use, safety and reliability. "
"Agreed, Kuala Lumpur's Puduraya Bus Terminal is a hellhole. Those of us who know Puduraya would love to avoid it, but when going through KL [by] bus, there are few options. For a country that pretends to be on the treshold of joining the First World league of nations, it has some of the worst bus terminals anywhere; even India's are better; Malaysia's bus terminals are not even Third World, but more like Fourth World. "
Given these safety concerns, the institutionalized racism and racial tension and "fourth world" transportation hassles, is it any wonder that so many travelers prefer to go to friendly Thailand, rustic Laos or service-focused Bali?
September 5, 2008
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amen.
i hate u
for me, malaysia is a lost country..., lost their cultural and has to pick some traditions and cultures from surrounding neighbours to build up their culture. the heads of terrorist in Indonesia imported from malaysia too. change the border map between malasyia and indonesia? Ambalat? Manohara? i really proud of indonesian ppl because of no matter what, indonesian employees still have big guts to work in malaysia but i've never seen malaysian melayu ever travel to indonesia... Do you know why?
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for me, malaysia is a lost country..., lost their cultural and has to pick some traditions and cultures from surrounding "neighbours to build up their culture. the heads of terrorist in Indonesia imported from malaysia too. change the border map between malasyia and indonesia? Ambalat? Manohara? i really proud of indonesian ppl because of no matter what, indonesian employees still have big guts to work in malaysia but i've never seen malaysian melayu ever travel to indonesia... Do you know why?"
- well, because there's no money in indonesia and the corruption level is not only among the high rank officer, but also among the taxi driver. thats why.
i iz are terrorist
where's guest18 when we need him?
damn you white shit
u dare say bad things about my homeland
i will send najib C4 and kill you. watch your back. i know your IP. call your god now. you iz goin to dies
malaysia is better than your shit for brains nation..
admit it you jeles coz we have better wumenz
good thing you got assaulted at the bus station. that will make u respect the locals more..
GTFO you racist facist shitcist crysis whatever cist...
guest18 is fapping IMHO
malay sucks
This is anon, you have some times time left to pray to your heathen gods, have a nice day in hell.
lol wat u expect the country be , when it was run by bunch of bozos as gov? Islamic country lol
I could not help but find myself nodding in agreement with your synopsis of the Malaysian experience, it's amazing you could glean so much from such a brief stay.
The part where you are absolutely wrong is labeling Msia as 4th World, Malaysia is actually a 999th World country and WE ARE PROUD OF THIS FACT!!
999th World Pride!!!
Well said, Paul. Well said. :)
paul
please come to malaysia and be our king
us useless slant eyed chinks would lick ur cock just so that you can take over from the superior malays. we are a weak race since we eat too many pork and flied lice
please come here be our saviour like Raffles saved Sinciapore
we need u ..
malaysia is first world
only the tourist is 89th world. cant accept the way we do things
u think u so superior because you white skin fuck? .. damn cibai mahai sohai.. chintongfa..
yellow power.. eat more noodle and laksa then come back u white fuck
your blog sucks major ass
i think Vkeong and Flizardo blog is nicer
cool story bro!
True to a certain extent
hi, i've been in this "malaysia" for 8 years now. I wish i could have gone to some other place.
This country as you mentioned is trying to hard to portray itself as First world, or developing country. where, in fact is is more like 5th world (calling it third world is insult to third world countries).
Racism, Discrimination, and Crime, are nothing but common. So common that the common man things it is the norm.
And the beautiful replies you got from so many "patriotic malaysians" shows the level of education, ethics, and manners they have.
I'm amazed how you figured out things in a very short time, cause honestly. It took me longer than few months to realize all this.
Well said.
paul for PM
will lick ur cock for free
chinese low life
i will report this blog to pulis
we will demo and ngo will make u pay for talking cock about malaysia
truthfully
umno paid lackeys
melayu maju
this blog writer is an INDON. INDON BANGSA RENDAHAN !! miskin yah?? mau makan?? kemari yuk ntar gua belikan nasi sama terasi. wkwkwkwkw !! lucu !! namanya juga INDON.
"Racism, Discrimination, and Crime, are nothing but common. So common that the common man things it is the norm.
And the beautiful replies you got from so many "patriotic malaysians" shows the level of education, ethics, and manners they have.
I'm amazed how you figured out things in a very short time, cause honestly. It took me longer than few months to realize all this.
Well said."
The Marehsian education system & its "media" perpetuate the delusion, ignorance and false arrogance!
kill and rape all WHITE imperialists!! MALAY POWER !! chinese not wanted !!
the blogger is a fuckin honkey !! go back to America, you piece of white bread.
another pakatan rakyat paid lackey detected
traitor
did anwar promise to fuck u?
we all did it for the luls
you tak suka u pergi bangkok
better AIDS there
paul is a freemason!!!
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Wow...real mature guys. This is not Kopitiam in LYN Forums (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1078985) where you talk cock and enjoice. We may take the micky out of this blogpost but other people not living in Malaysia will form their perceptions based on the unruly comments. No need to help the government further run the country down.
Paul, it is a fair article but it is a shame you were not able to experience the better side of our country more. Every country has its problems...some more than others but ultimately it is up to an individual to decide whether or not to focus on the positives or negatives.
paul
I am sorry bout your stay in malaysia...
what to do...when bee end is fulled of people who would do anything to suck any big shot dick that can provide juices, for their own satisfaction.
And the worst part is, their leaders know it and manipulate this situaton. HAHAHA the faggots... don't know that their are being used to suck dicks and ass
you should've have visits the opposition states, hey we have 8!!! now
PENANG FTW!!!!!
Rules 1 & 2 dammit! We are supposed to blame carigold for this /i/!
LYN Righteous Man u idiot! We have 5 opposition states...the 8 is of the ruling party. *shake head... no wonder the country is going down the drain.
oh shit....
that means i am a bee end
and i sucked cocks...
lol
really no wonder we running this country to Hell
Again Mr. Paul,
I am sorry for your incident
which incidently was caused by Carigold initially
As usual, well written and insightful. You took some risks with strong opinions and judgments, but when someone has traveled the world and been as curious about people and culture as you have, I think you earn that right. And the balance you give to your other posts will let any of your regular readers know that you are not asserting an agenda. Anyone who actually knows you must be amused by the responses you have generated, revealing the writers' ignorance, fears and prejudices, and unwittingly strenghtening your observations and assertions.
HIDUP MELAYU !! BANTAI CINA !! -malaynuem-
fuck you, you white skin fuck!
we hate ang moh!!
woooo!
i come and read this story, i found some of it to be true, yes you say we have racism, what about usa?? theres no racism there?? what about singapore, japan, mexico?? everywhere you go you will see racism not just MALAYSIA, what you write here is just you portraying what usa is, you talk about us yet you still come here, if you dont like it you can leave. i dont even see any malaysians talk about usa, the way you talk. it seems that you fear us malaysian, your scared that one day we will go to your house and call you wanker or honkey, so what you say we are racist, what about usa?? think before you type. even though im a malaysian, i still can think, i dont go around degrading other peoples country.
i lived in malaysia for 9 years, and it is very hard to get used to that place, and the majority of the people there are so racist, they do know how to treat foreigners, they dont know how to behave, and wow read their comments,so pathetic
maybe paul upset no gay boys dressed as ladies will service his foreign cock
so he gets upset because KL is not bangkok
as the rule goes in /k/
PICS OF IT NEVER HAPPENED. i smell slender. i call BS on Paul's story. another foreign agent trying to tarnish malaysian awesomeness!
paul u piece of white shit
i went to london.. full with racist scums too. bad transportation system.. always have tube strike. the buses also have leaky windows when it rains.. what else
oh yeah.. i fear for my safety. maybe al qaeda guy will blow himself up anytime. now london also have BNP racists
how about america
drug culture..racist cabbies. islamophobes
same shit..
as a malaysian i agree
you need to be beaten up for being a white fag
sugoi monogatari aniki
Well, I am not Malaysian, and may be not being one of the main races in Malaysia I might have somehow more neutral point of view, for most people it is always greener on the other side and feel that they are living in hell. Well this is not always the case we have to be moderate in our actions . Malaysia is not the best place on earth but also it is not the worst, I do respect Paul for bringing the issue his country is suffering of , and the best action is not to react with pure emotions but we have to think about what he wrote and how to improve the weakness in our systems. Exchanging accusation between Malays, Chinese and Indians won’t bring anything except making things worse.
When I was there, I noticed in few cases how hatred (inherited most of the time) between races in Malaysia spoiled every thing and then the blaming session will start. I guess it is time for the Malays to be thankful for the other races on helping building Malaysia and the other races have to be thankful for Malays for sharing their land with them..
That is all.
As a Malaysian, its a shame to say that to a certain extent your article holds much truth. What's even sadder is the majority of visitors here(I daresay, are my own countrymen) who do not see these problems, and just blindly bash you. Even as a local, I feel my safety threatened more and more each day. Crime is rampant and nothing the police does (if they did anything at all) seem to be able to stop these criminals from rampaging even in broad daylight.
Do not even start with the political state of this country.
Transportation in general is still in a sorry state. Still...with the right people who is honest and knows whats good in the places in this country, I'm sure visitors will still be able to enjoy what this country has to offer :)
Thank you for your feedback. However, do give us a chance because we are still trying to become a better country. No hate us but if you do...please don't come here anymore. When it comes to racist...pls look at white man first...they are the most racist people in the world and pls read the history of aparteid. As for Malaysian.....just do our best, yes we are different but at the same time...we will always work hand in hand with other races.
People should read more carefully before becoming defensive and making knee-jerk reactions. Paul is clearly not implying that the U.S. is a bastion of security and civil rights; he writes, "Malaysia is, outside of the U.S., the country in which I've felt the greatest amount of animosity among different ethnic groups." In other words, he says he felt MORE animosity among ethnic groups in the U.S., which is understandable given the racism built into its Constitution and 200+ years of slavery and segregation.
Sometimes it is useful to look at criticism, particularly painful assessments, as an opportunity. Wouldn't it be better, instead of being a pig in a pen cursing the failures of the outside world, to make an effort to recognize the faults in your own world and fix them? Having come from an area of high crime and racial tension, I was amazed when I first went to a country where it was safe and people could walk the streets alone at night without fear, where people could trust each other and assume that strangers were good people instead of out to rip you off. And when I learned that society didn't have to be a place of fear, danger and distrust, I felt so angry that I had been taught that they were normal. They're certainly not!
I would hope that Malaysian readers could recognize that there might be better alternatives than the current social order and would work to find positive solutions instead of hating people for pointing out problems that many people don't even seem to recognize as problems.
I read your blog on Malaysia. I would agree with some of the contents of your blog. But there were also many parts which I felt were inaccurate. I get the impression that either your views on Malaysia were formed based on partial knowledge of the country or that your writing was partial and coloured by some mistreatment you probably suffered in Malaysia.
America's discrimination of its ethnic minority is no better than that in Malaysia. Its violence far worse. But would I call America a 3rd world country for these and other failings?
Your article merely focussed on what were the negative aspects, and sometimes rather inaccurately too. And that's not doing justice, counsel.
I just have 1 advice for the foreigners who found living in Malaysia intolerable. DON'T. Just pack up and leave. Why torture yourself. I'm sure no one is forcing you to stay.
Hi! Paul..Thank You for visiting Malaysia , i'm very sorry that you didn't have the chance to really visited Malaysia's positive side... While you were here. Just like what...delsoles said... I have to agree that ur post were made because of the Ugly experience that u have here while at Malaysia .I dont mind that that u had to get all those energy out By BLOGGING .and all that research and information that you u had post here is "YOUR VIEW" about My Country. Still i quite sad that the person that you had met were "Racist People" like the Chinese Aunty, and The Chinese Taxi Driver that you had QUOTE . about the racist storiest..(I'm myself a Chinese Malaysian). SHAME on them racist..Their really need to realize whether Malay, Chinese, Indian or other ethnic.. we are Still One MALAYSIA People.
"Calling other people's race by name and damning them is the works of Shaitan and just meaningless."
it not like we ask GOD to be born an Malay, an Chinese, an India.
Hopefully Paul..you can back to my Country again..one day.. and see the real MALAYSIA and not just the BAD side only..
Well done ! esp taxi drivers am a Malaysian living abroad and I CANT STAND THEM ! Its even worse where taxi drivers r known to drive you else where, pick pocket you etc. I am afraid to take taxis alone by my self at night. The LRT while a good effort is poorly connected. KL is just poor town planning. Still floods every year, the government does nothing.
The whole racial thing makes me sick. BTW i dont think its the Malays or Bumiputras who were the original settlers... most chinese folk can go back 10 generations. The truth is we will never know because histroy changes all the time in my country.
Also am pretty sick of people going around identifying them selves of indians or chinese they dont get it saying that ur indian or chinese means that you are form CHINA or INDIA. They continue to ridicule them selves telling people that while travelling abroad.
Strangely it is hard to be identified as a Malaysians as right till you were born till your government exams, looking for jobs you are required to state ethnicity. load of crap. no one asks me what I am here.
also the whole religion thing is a load of hypocracy. Most people are not 100 % practicing it but then the time comes everyone want to be religion x,y,z get touchy and sentimental. they dont even know the meaning of actually calling your self religion x,y,z. unlike in western countries it doesn’t mean that u r born religion x as your parents are ur x. people here r proud to say they have no religion or not practicing. Folk back home perhaps pray 3 times a year and indulge in all that’s wrong still call themselves religion x. As a 'religious' country its good to know that bribery is an open thing in the country and treating people unfairly is also allowed.. religion huh !
Having said the above there are many good things such as the neighborly spirit, lovely beaches, good food, etc.
I am amazed at how well you analysed the Malaysian scenario. It's all so true, unfortunately. I am a Malaysian and I am ashamed at how things are. I wish I could blame it all on the undemocratic political system that the governing party uses to continue manipulating inter-racial tension to perpetuate its reign. But I also think that we have somehow lost ourselves, our dignity while we were (and still are) trying to become a modern country. The overemphasis on the hardware (infrastructure, physical development) and not enough on the software has turned us into a shallow nation, a hard concrete structure that is all hollow inside. I am a Malay and I am against the racist, pro-Malay policies. I travel extensively to Indonesia, Thailand and Laos and each time, I am humbled by the way things are in these countries and saddened by how different the scenario is in mine. But I believe that all this could change. It's not going to be easy (just look at the comments given by my so-called patriotic countrymen!) but change it we must at least try!
Hey Paul( that's your name as of this blog right?), I've browsed through every negative and positive remarks there are to this post of yours, and I'm not surprised at all. This only shows the hard ugly reality. People, deemed 'patriotic' just doesn't know how to move on. There are a few exceptions of course. I'm sure many of the people who commented on this post, is educated or tech-savvy enough to turn on the computer, click on any internet browser, search for blogs on travels and actually coming to type words on it. This means you are already quite technologically advanced.
I, being a Malaysian myself, don't understand how these defensive people here, are able to be proud of Malaysia, ok, maybe only Kuala Lumpur for this instance. -Hey no hard feelings, fellow Malaysians- I guarantee you, if there's ever a conference on, let's say a topic on 'World's worst bus terminals', and MIRACALOUSLY KL came up as a nominee, the 'patriotics' will not dare to step up to the plate.
I mean, come on, just look at what our Minister's doing now. Take for example, Tourism Minister, Ng Yen Yen. She's idling her time away, bloody hell trying to politically divide FOOD now, FOOD for pete's sake. Yes, I can comprehend they are trying to boost Tourism, but what in the world, has acclaiming food as a nation's own, come into that context? I applaud Paul, for his truthful comments on Malaysia. Truly Asia.
On a completely side note, I would had personally see to that assaulter of yours, have a taste of his own medicine. Cheers.
Singapore has completely OWNED Malaysia in terms of cultural harmony.
-hands down-
I read the comments left in your post with glee, as I realized that 90% of the people who anonymously posted a comment here.. were in fact Malaysian, or people who claim to be Malaysians.
I am a Malaysian, of that, I am certain. And I, no doubt love my country, but I feel ashamed of the narrow-mindedness of some of my fellow Malaysians. They hide behind their computer screens and type hate messages behind anonymous names. Come on la....
Anyway, Paul, your article is a shining beacon of light for those who are in the dark over what is actually happening here. And believe me, when I say that Puduraya is but a taste of the corruption and disease afflicting this country.
70% of the world knows that we are relatively inferior compared to our neighbours down south, and we choose not to do anything about it, but sit back and accuse that 70% of shoving their noses in other peoples business. Yes, laziness at the highest degree; and what disgusts me even more is the fact that they try to politicise anything and everything.
To all you Malaysians out there.. wake up la.. and smell the stench of the rotting country you guys are shamelessly trying to defend.
Well done, Paul, for this post. I was born in Malaysia, and have been Malaysian all my life, but I totally agree with you with nearly everything you've mentioned in your post.
Malaysia is a country run by apes and chimpanzees, and yes, we have the worst taxis in the world and one of the worst transportation systems you can find, all this in a country pretending to be on the verge of becoming a first world nation. And judging from the really shallow and idiotic hate comments here, filled with profanities and name-calling, the country is also inhabited by a healthy population of primates of little or no intelligence too.
I myself am half Malay but I still agree with the comments of many people you have encountered in Malaysia, that the local Malays are WEAK, BACKWARD, LAZY, COWARDLY and FANATICALLY RELIGIOUS and the racist and discriminatory policies they've set for the country are truly one of the biggest obstacles for this young nation to progress.
Compared to Indonesians, our local Malays are a lot more backward in their thinking and mindset. Indonesians have a glorious culture and history to look up to, and oh yes, they invented the Pendet Dance, while over here.... well, forget it.
Paul, I'm a Malaysian Chinese who has lived in Malaysia literally my whole life. Your lucid observations of Malaysia and its people are absolutely spot-on. As can be seen from the postings above mine, the intelligent ones agree with your points, while the others merely prove them right.
There is a serious lack of decency, integrity, and civic-mindedness among Malaysians that are hallmarks and indeed, the pillars of the societies of true first world countries.
A country is only as strong as its people are, and on this basis alone, we will never be a first world nation. Sad, but ultimately, true.
It is unfortunate that so many malaysians have such a backward mentality.
Criticism should be accepted in order to improve onself.
I hope that you, the author of this post, realize that many of the people who are critical of your views have known no other country - and blind nationalism can translate into anonymous, empty hateful rhetoric.
I would not go so far as to say that Malaysia is a lost cause, but yeah, there are serious issues in malaysia largely stemming from the divide between rich and poor. It is easy to criticize those who partake in scams...but the crux of the matter is that many people cannot find decent jobs. Working at MacDonalds earns you less than USD2 per hour... so go figure.
The article is well written, and it is shameful that so many people got the wrong idea - it is likely that english was not their mother tongue and they misunderstood sentences such as "Malaysia is, outside of the U.S., the country in which I've felt the greatest amount of animosity among different ethnic groups." - that really implied that there is more racial tension in the states.
This article is well intentioned and highlights a growing problem in malaysian cities.
I have to add that this is not the case out of the cities. I have travelled the breadth of peninsular malaysia myself, and I speak on the behalf of fellow malaysian when I say that you have only seen the worst of Malaysia.
In the rural areas, I have never been ripped off,...from food to night market vendors, especially in settlements (both chinese and malay predominannt ones). Prices are advertised and people are honest and friendly.
Malaysia’s Taxi Services are truly well-known in the World for the Wrong Reason.
Asking for exorbitant and high fees is not uncommon practice here.
My blog has a write up on Taxi fee Increase
Perhaps this article, No complaints on touts so far and this article, Najib happy with Puduraya upgrade, would give some reassurance of improved conditions at Puduraya.
I must say, the first impression on reading this post is I'm sorry for your bad experience in Malaysian.
Like other Malaysian here who is normal enough not to throw a handful of verbal abuses at you, I also want to apologize for the 'mindless' comments you are getting here.
What you've written is quite true, but nobody is doing anything to improve/fix it -_-ll
And all the stuff you’ve written, more or less are what I wish to voice out but can’t as we are not allowed to write bad stuff about our country.
It’s just too bad that you only see the bad parts of Malaysia.
I must apologise on behalf of my fellow countrymen. There is no such thing as a fully working system, i.e. public transportation, education and health, that is just and proud-of.
Due to that, you get a lot of people who thinks in a special kind of way. There are a few good examples in the comments posted.
Hence we have the term "Malaysia Boleh" or "Malaysia Can". I'd rephrase that "Malaysia Could-Have".
As for racism, we are the worst culprits. We are biased even to our own race/ ehtnic background, yet alone other races.
i'm a malaysian, born & grew up here. i salute your braveness to step foot to our notorious puduraya. i don't even dare to drive pass that area.
Very well written. Thanks for bringing these issues to international level. Good to pressure the arrogant and ignorant Malaysia government.
P/S: I'm a Malaysian and I can't agree more with your arguments.
paul, what makes you think that your country is any better?? just because no one has written about it doesnt mean no one knows about whats going on over there. youre just a big fat hypocrite. thats what you are, you faggot.
And yes, do keep the comments from those retarded Malaysian apologists, need not remove. They have served as excellent contrast elements to what the government has been trying hard, throwing all the taxpayers' money into drain (and pockets) to portrait the civilized image of the country and the people.
i haf to say, the criticism is dearly harsh paul .. can't deny that every country has its own problem; be-it racism, cultural issue, political disturbance & economically.
in malaysia, many areas has been look into & the issues which u hi-lighted / blogged is nothing compared to what other countries are facing. if we were to debate this, i believe it could go on forever & ever.
no doubt there is still many of areas which malaysia need to improve to be a definite so-called "world-class" country, however, do note that we've only had 50 years of independence.
compared the duration to that of some western countries (& even our asian counterparts), malaysia is very much an infant
anyway, my dear fellow malaysian, pls understand the freedom of speech. our dear friend paul are blogging out of experiences, & not speculation :)
for such harsh (& colorful) comments will only brand us further down as citizens of "999th" world-country .. o.0"
rgds, a-malaysian & proud to be one!
Hehehe, now you know...
im a malaysian.
and i agree.
sadly.
wtf is wrong with these malaysians. commenting like the're the shit and all.do u even understand what they are talking about?
embarrassing.
Hi paul,
I am so sorry for your bad experience in our country. The majority of Malaysians are unfortunately still plagued by backward thinking and struggling to earn a living.so you have (all races) touts, dishonest businesmen snatch thieves ,corrupted cops and constipated taxi drivers. We're definitely a third world country with good infrastructure in the city.To future tourists (genuine malaysians will always welcome you) pls be aware of snatch thieves.Their operating hours are early morning and late evenings. be careful when you hear a motorcycle suddenly rev up near you. Other than that, Malaysia is generally ...er ..okay for touristy stuff. I cant even begin to describe the embarassment I feel when tourists are targets for petty crime which seems rampant these days!
I find myself agreeing to many of the points you made in your post. Still it is a pity that you did not get to see the good stuff in my country. I really sympathise with your horrible experience while in the, admittedly equally bad, Puduraya, and in meeting racists. Most assuredly, not all of us are like that. Hopefully one day you will come back to Malaysia and have a nicer memory of your time here.
I agree with you Paul. I have been living in Malaysia for several years now. I can say that it's true KL is a bad area as it invites bad people.
I live in East Malaysia and have never experienced anything that happened to you in Puduraya bus terminal. Yes the taxis in all parts of Malaysia are out to cheat you. They even cheat the locals. The government needs to enforce use of meters and give stiff penalties and some form of reporting system that tourist can complain to and follow up. But to be effective locals also need to report them.
I agree that their are some tension between the locals. Only they can settle it. It will take more than 50 years to resolve this problem.
As for indonesia it is a dangerous place if u are caught in a demonstration or mass civil unrest which seems to happen alot in major cities of Indonesia. South Thailand, Ambon Indonesia, Aceh, and many other areas of Indonesia do have racial tensions.
As a foreigner living and having Malaysian born children I still cannot get residence. My son has a Malaysian passport but I cannot apply for a Visa using his status as my son as a reference. Go figure!
Paul, while I agree with your comments about Pudu Raya, I do not think Malaysia is as bad as you portray. I empathize with your bad experience within such a short stay but I think Malaysia should not be characterized so easily. As with every country, there are many aspects and layers to things.
We have a bad government but there are good Malaysians too.
Some things work and some do not. Maybe people go to Thailand because they smile more and are Buddhists. However, one cannot rule out the possibility that it is also because Thailand is cheaper, has a big sex industry and a lot of the smiles are money-worship.
p/s: I apologize for the bad Malaysians' comments in here. These are the ones who drag the rest of Malaysia down with them.
I am with you man! Malaysia somehow is still a very thuggish country. Full of crimes, full of cowboy drivers, full of con artists and also very distressing, full of snatch thieves. Recently I stayed in Penang Eva Hotel and there is a big sign warning of snatch thieves. Not all the blames goes to Malaysian locals I have to say. You just cannot tell an Indon from Malaysian Malays visually esp for foreigners, so a lot of crooked stuff are done by these illegals. Your Pudu Raya experience probably done by locals.
The taxi experience I had flat rate charges in Penang and KL as well. Just last month I believe the taxi drivers got a huge increase in the fare they charge passengers. I hope this will give them zero excuse to avoid metering the ride. In my Penang experience I was quoted the flat rate as you experienced, a take it or leave it attitude I can somewhat understand why they don't meter the fare as in a less dense environment they will usually come back empty so they want to cover themselves with flat rates. The authorities should recalibrate their fares and make a very clear black and white complaints notice built right into the driver's license on the passenger side so there is zero chance for abuse. Let's just say Malaysia is still full of 'second rated' people, even though it had come a long way.
There are really quite a few nice places to see in Malaysia, just get out of the cities and enjoy the natural environment and rural places. There I bet you will find much better people around. I hope you will revisit Malaysia but head out of the cities and enjoy 'laid back' Malaysia.
A Malaysian In USA
I'm truly sorry for your bad experience in Malaysia...But I'm rather curious...it seems that your review here only focusses on Puduraya..I must say that Puduraya is not reflect well on the nation, but maybe you shouldnt judge us based on this station alone...I mean, any decent, sensible Malaysian would avoid or spend the least amount of time there. Malaysians are generally kind and courteous....perhaps you've been mixing with the wrong crowd (the rant on racial politics seems to suggest so..). Sure, we're not lovey dovey like the ads, but most of us do get along...
If there is one thing that will bring Malaysians together (and this is a sad fact) is "defending" Malaysia from a "Malaysia-basher". Maybe we (yes I am Malaysian) should have more "Malaysia-bashers" out there so we can finally be united in a cause.
When it comes to malaise between the races, it comes from only proud ancestral traditions and staunch adherence to psycho human interpretations of our major religions. More common to people of the book of course.
However, I don't see how this affects travelers and how this makes Malaysia a bad place to travel to. I for instance, won't decide to travel to a country just because two/three races in that country hate each other. Just as long as they don't hate me openly (the other countries are more "1st world" as they only hate people of other races/nationalities behind their backs). And the last i checked, we adore white men in Asia, especially our ladies (more money for the economy & me!).
Lastly, with regards to public transport, we may be far from the best but we are certainly far from the worst as well. And Paul, don't you know better than to never take the local bus in a country you aren't comfortable with? Didnt you attempt to google the reliable intercity bus operators and to look for their counters in puduraya (some of them are not even based in puduraya)? And Paul, take the LRT/KTM commuter/Monorail and walk (like the other backpacker tourists) if you decide to spend more time in KL.
Being street smart is what Malaysians living in KL (or just about any major city with "problems") are about. Stay out of trouble, find reliable business people/premises, avoid touts, avoid quiet alleys, keep your things safe and leave your prejudices at home. Things that you usually take for granted at home I guess. And finally, for god sakes, make some friends with the other expats (go look for em in any bar/pub/nice restaurant/drinking hole) - they'd gladly show you the ropes. Afterall, some of them have "survived" this country fine & intact for years.
Yep, Malaysia. That's the sad state of my country. And the junk comments you see here, that is what we call it, the Malaysian mentality. Agree, we are a racist lot. Still waiting for the day when I will no longer be asked what's my race for my inability to speak Chinese (from my fellow brethren).
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Well, it is dangerous but not THAT dangerous... I walk around in the dark often in deserted areas e.g. back alleys and the robber looking foreigners just ignores me... But I do glare at them with the "I will kill you" face... Plus, those immigrants would try to cut everyone's lines but mine at train stations... The trick is to stare at them like you're mad, and hurl insults at them... Insults meaning their nationality, their race and religion... It hurts most when you call them dirty... (Yeah!!! I openly practice racism) I've been doing this for 6 years and have not been bashed up... Seems like they like to target weak-looking people and if you look overly innocent or if you look like you're some triad boss' son, you're free to do anything... As a chinese ethnic, I don't like indians... But I do have 2 malay ethnic friends... Few if compared to the chinese people... That puduraya issue, just aim for the counters and avoid those dudes with walkie talkies and if they speak to you, do not acknowledge their existence and act like they're not there... I do not love this country and neither do I love singapore or indonesia or anywhere else... This is where I live and if you stop thinking about the inequalities, and stop looking for the bad stuff in it, it could be a decent country to live in... But you'll need some getting used to... I do not like every malays out there but I do not like every chinese and indians out there too... Some chinese are just plain caucasian wannabes particularly around subang and damansara area where they're somehow concentrated... In other areas, the chinese can carry lots of chinese pride and the chinese language seems like the world to them... And they can't speak in any other languages other than chinese... Some malays are just racist and some indians are just plain chaiwala (tea bearer) like... They always think they're better than they are... Narcissistic??? More like annoying...
well come to think of it, malaysia is a land of immigrants. if look at history, u can find out yourself. Not to pick on the malays but thei language itself says it all. most of their words are borrowed from other languagues. U name it, snaskrit, tamil, english even chinese. now dont get surprised my frens. but as a citizen of this country, i believe we have to look beyond dat. y bring race n religion if u wanna live in harmony? as far as i know no religion or race encourages fights, theft, well u know wat i mean. it will be better be look each other as a human race n make the country a place. after all, if u cut my wrist, the blood is still red. not blue, red or yellow. make one malaysia possibguys. not by saying it but working towards it. truth is always bitter. there's no point denying wat happening while every1 knows da truth. lets accept da truth and work towards a better MALAYSIA. i believe we can do it.
Wow...Malaysian sure is dangerous for tourists...
Its not at all like the UK or Germany...
You wouldnt get robbed on UK streets, shot at during carnival in London, or harassed by drunk people
People wouldnt pick on you and call you "Indo" in Berlin
Yeah, no drug dealer would sell you drugs at Ku'Dam's bahnhof
Sure, Malaysia is so dangerous, I wouldnt get out of your hotel at all if I were you. Better watch BBC news in safety.
If you still dont get it, I'm being sarcastic here.
Yes, Malaysia has its flaws (as any other country), but I just dont get some of you Malaysian not even being a little bit proud when people complain about the nation.
Can I ask you Paul...did you ever try have dinner with any Malays...It seems you were only making friends with the Chinese..maybe because you could easily have a drink with them...
Maybe you just didnt try at all.
And, finally, keep to writing about travelling Paul, you're not much of a political critic
I'm a Malaysian but I don't agree with what Amir said. Puduraya Station is a main station where you need to visit for taking buses to other states in Malaysia or even to Singapore/Thailand. The tourists are our guests, should we need to ensure our guests' safety and make Malaysia a safe place to live by the tourists and local people?
I am astonished at what Paul had said about Malaysia social-economy issues, they are so real. You are a great observant!
Everyone must cast vote based on performance of the party which forms the government. For sure I won't choose the current one!
I'm a Malaysian but I don't agree with what Amir said. Puduraya Station is a main station where you need to visit for taking buses to other states in Malaysia or even to Singapore/Thailand. The tourists are our guests, shouldn't we need to ensure our guests' safety and make Malaysia a safe place to live by the tourists and local people?
I am astonished at what Paul had said about Malaysia social-economy issues, they are so real. You are a great observant!
Everyone must cast vote based on performance of the party which forms the government. For sure I won't choose the current one!
Look at all the comments posted above me, all are the by-products of typical Malaysian elitism attitude. An attitude gained by Malaysians who do not have a sense of identity and go about copying others and while hiding behind a web of anonymity, cuss and call you names. I myself would show who I am but that would only mean getting my own site ravaged by these hooligans. The mindset of Malaysians who could not live with the positive endings of harsh criticism are the bane of the population's improvement. How is one to improve without being told the truth of what we are doing wrong?
Paul, I myself am a Malaysian Chinese who agrees with what you say. This has been the way of life for Malaysians, and trust me you have not seen the "true" Malaysia. This is a place ruled by violence and to some extend, tyranny. The minorities are shut out and majorities still live on with their mentality of being the one with the "rights" to live here.
Malaysia is built on the hard work of multiple ethnicity's, and in my opinion it's not fair to continue living with said mentality and not acknowledge the contribution of others. WE built this nation, WE should live in it. I'm not asking for the full retraction of the Bumiputra rights, but do not implement further rights to tip the already bias scale against the minorities.
How this nation if going to improve? I don't know, if the government continue promoting Malaysia as what we are now via CNN and other media interactions, we are digging a deeper grave for our tourism industry. This country is beautiful in every means, and I mean it when I say that. The outskirts of Malaysia who are not plagued by the riches-chasing individuals are warm and ever friendly, and those are the places you should consider visiting if you ever want to take another chance at visiting Malaysia.
My recommendation? Head for the beaches and islands. Pangkor, Redang, Perhentian, Sipadan are the places Malaysia is proud of.
I would just like to point out; please note the difference between hating Malaysia and hating the Malaysian government. I grow up with with the mentality of the former, but as maturity and understanding sets in, I now believe in the latter.
seriously you know nothing about malaysia your probably australian british or american and you guys are the fastest in the world to judge malsyai is a wonderful country is beautiful and amazing i am indian malay myself and i should know wat its like and you know nothing so i suggest u delete this or if u ever enter malaysia again there will not be the ebst holiday for you malaysia has amazing people there is just kerruption going on riite now with the goverment and things are getting sorted out so just shut yuor mouth you can not judge i hate people whoo say malaysia is badd well maybe if u focus on malaysias negatives ill focus on urs and ur countries cause shows me u never focuss on evrything positive and all non malaysians who r agreeing with him ur just as badd
(Anonymous, November 14, 2009 1:57 AM) As a malaysian I'd like to believe what you are saying. But the truth is not pleasant.
Malaysia is generally on the right track, with appropriate emphasis on education and a burgeoning middle class, but the pitfalls of fast development and corruption are starting to become blaring, and the risk of Malaysia turning into a failed state is real.
Unless you have experienced life abroad, in a more egalitarian society, when a fair day's (unskilled) wage can support a family and rent... and the government has adequate social services and amenities... You cannot say what you just did.
After living in a first world country for three years, I can certainly see the point where the author is coming from.
The grass can really be greener on the other side.
Well, Malaysia has got lots of beautiful beaches, resorts and forests. I believe that in every country you go to, there is bound to be an area that is high-classed and another to be low. Just mingle around the more sophisticated Malaysia and the problem's solved!
Create ur own world.every country had a bad side, jst dun insert politic view inside, politic is always bad around the world...
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